<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752</id><updated>2012-01-27T07:36:59.719-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Theological Crumbs</title><subtitle type='html'>Because the crumbs on the floor 
are a whole lot more interesting than the food on the table...</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>45</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-4621693378870850190</id><published>2008-06-14T22:25:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2008-12-11T11:47:51.740-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Why Jesus Was Baptized Outside</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_o6Bc6jQuIWM/SFSOLbsFHEI/AAAAAAAAACM/WrnEEMoiTxM/s1600-h/IMG_5122.JPG"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_o6Bc6jQuIWM/SFSOLbsFHEI/AAAAAAAAACM/WrnEEMoiTxM/s320/IMG_5122.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5211946995836853314" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/THECON%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-4621693378870850190?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/4621693378870850190/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=4621693378870850190' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4621693378870850190'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4621693378870850190'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/06/why-jesus-was-baptized-outside.html' title='Why Jesus Was Baptized Outside'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_o6Bc6jQuIWM/SFSOLbsFHEI/AAAAAAAAACM/WrnEEMoiTxM/s72-c/IMG_5122.JPG' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-8843676971431985048</id><published>2008-05-30T11:23:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-30T11:26:13.650-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Let the Little Children Come to Me</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://cliftondalecc.org/Baptisms_files/image010.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 148px; height: 102px;" src="http://cliftondalecc.org/Baptisms_files/image010.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;“Even to the foulest offenders, when they afterward believe, remission of sin is granted. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;On this premise no one is prohibited from baptism and grace. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;How much more should an infant be admitted, who, just born, has not sinned in any respect, except that, being born of the flesh according to Adam, has in his first birth contracted the contagion of the ancient deadly nature. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Would not such a child obtain remission of sins with the less difficulty, because not his own actual guilt, but that of another, is to be remitted? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Our sentence therefore, dearest brother, in the Council (of &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Carthage&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; 254 A.D.) was that none by us should be prohibited from baptism and the grace of God, who is merciful and kind to all.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;-- Cyprian of &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Carthage&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; (martyred 258 A.D.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-8843676971431985048?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/8843676971431985048/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=8843676971431985048' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/8843676971431985048'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/8843676971431985048'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/05/let-little-children-come-to-me.html' title='Let the Little Children Come to Me'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-8641610583591985466</id><published>2008-05-23T09:56:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-23T11:53:44.692-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Forward Looking to Father’s Day</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Father’s Day falls on June 15&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I’d like some input on a few things: &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;1)&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;What does it mean to be a father?&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;2)&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;What do fathers need (not just want) to hear from the pulpit?&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;3)&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;What have wise writers said about the vocation of fatherhood? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-8641610583591985466?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/8641610583591985466/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=8641610583591985466' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/8641610583591985466'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/8641610583591985466'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/05/forward-looking-to-fathers-day.html' title='Forward Looking to Father’s Day'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-4208895813200698422</id><published>2008-05-22T13:42:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-22T13:42:48.875-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Reward for Works?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;When it comes to good works, countless Christians have this bizarre notion that they don’t matter. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I guess they’ve heard “you’re saved by grace not by works” so often that they’ve concluded their works don’t matter.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As a result, they tend to think of heaven as a great equaling ground. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I don’t think Scripture teaches this. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The Bible repeatedly speaks of reward for works.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 Paul says, “&lt;span style=""&gt;By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should be careful how he builds. For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Paul seems to think our works will be rewarded.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Luther did too and Chemnitz even said in his &lt;i style=""&gt;Examen&lt;/i&gt;, “&lt;/span&gt;…the good works in the reconciled, since they are acceptable through faith for the sake of the Mediator, have spiritual and bodily rewards in this life and after this life; they have these rewards through the gratuitous divine promise; not that God owes this because of the perfection and worthiness of our works, but because He, out of fatherly mercy and liberality, for the sake of Christ, has promised that He would honor with rewards the obedience of His children in this life, even though it is only begun and is weak, imperfect, and unclean.” &lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;(Examination of the Council of Trent I, 653)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;And the Lutheran Confessions even say this about good works and rewards, “It is God’s will and express command that believers should do good works which the Holy Spirit works in them, and God is willing to be pleased with them for Christ’s sake and He promises to &lt;em&gt;reward them gloriously in this and in the future life&lt;/em&gt;.  &lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;(Formula of &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Concord&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:City&gt;; Solid Declaration, Article IV, paragraph 38.)  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Yet, when I’ve brought this up, people get nervous about “works righteousness.” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;C.F.W. Walther, first president of the LCMS, spoke about this, “Sometimes people get very uncomfortable when you talk about degrees of reward and punishment because it seems like it conflicts with our understanding of the doctrine of justification (salvation by grace through faith in Christ).  The key to understanding different rewards or different degrees of reward in heaven is to think of them as &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;gifts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.  If rewards are understood as pure gifts of grace, in no way earned, merited or deserved, then there is no conflict, contradiction or problem reconciling them with salvation by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, why aren’t we preaching more on rewards for works? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Oh, and why desire rewards (for those of you who are so pious that you are unmoved by God’s promise of rewards)? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The rewards will be used to bring glory to Christ. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;And what Christian doesn’t want to glorify Jesus?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So again, why aren’t we preaching on rewards for works? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-4208895813200698422?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/4208895813200698422/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=4208895813200698422' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4208895813200698422'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4208895813200698422'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/05/reward-for-works.html' title='Reward for Works?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-6921904342822667701</id><published>2008-05-01T13:21:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-05-01T13:32:26.593-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Tekmerion: My New Favorite Word</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;“Tekmerion.”&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;In Greek, the word means “decisive, infallible, or convincing proof.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In his &lt;i style=""&gt;Institutio Oratoria&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintilian"&gt;Quintilian&lt;/a&gt; said this about the word, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;“&lt;/span&gt;All artificial proofs, then, as I say, are distinguished, first of all, into two kinds, one in which the conclusion is necessary, the other in which it is not necessary. The former are those which cannot be otherwise, and which the Greeks call τεκμ&lt;span style="font-family: Tahoma;"&gt;ή&lt;/span&gt;ρια&lt;i&gt; (tekmēria)&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;span style="font-family: Tahoma;"&gt;ἄ&lt;/span&gt;λυτα σημε&lt;span style="font-family: Tahoma;"&gt;ῖ&lt;/span&gt;α &lt;i&gt;(aluta sēmeia),&lt;/i&gt; "irrefutable signs." These scarcely seem to me to come under the rules of art, for when there is an irrefutable indication, there can be no ground for dispute. This happens whenever a thing must be, or must have been; or cannot be, or cannot have been; and this being stated in a cause, there can be no contention about the point.&lt;span style=""&gt;”  (See &lt;a href="http://honeyl.public.iastate.edu/quintilian/5/chapter9.html#3"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for more.)  &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;The New Testament uses the word only once (of which I’m aware). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Where?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Acts 1:3: “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;After his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing proofs (tekmerios) that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and spoke about the &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placetype st="on"&gt;kingdom&lt;/st1:PlaceType&gt;  of &lt;st1:placename st="on"&gt;God&lt;/st1:PlaceName&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;.” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;While many today have challenged the resurrection, for Luke, Jesus’ bodily and physical resurrection from the dead was beyond doubt.  The Christian faith isn't founded on a fable, but on the hard fact (the tekmerion) of Jesus' resurrection.  Jesus lives!   &lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-6921904342822667701?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/6921904342822667701/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=6921904342822667701' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6921904342822667701'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6921904342822667701'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/05/tekmerion-my-new-favorite-word.html' title='Tekmerion: My New Favorite Word'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-4132791329222355318</id><published>2008-04-26T09:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-26T09:17:34.611-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Atheist Must Answer: The Origin of Life</title><content type='html'>&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;Atheists claim life came into existence without the aid of a Creator.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s one thing to make a claim; it’s another to support it with reasonable evidence. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;As a Christian it seems quite reasonable to believe that infinite Life (i.e. God) created life. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Even more, everything we see as observable facts supports that notion that life produces life; I’ve never seen a rock give birth to a living creature.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Obviously I can’t prove God created life, but it sure seems like a reasonable conclusion.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, how did life come from non-life?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I can think of no better atheist to ask on this subject than Richard Dawkins.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;How does he answer? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;“The origin of life was the chemical event, or series of events, whereby the vital conditions for natural selection first came about… Once the vital ingredient – some kind of genetic molecule – is in place, true Darwinian natural selection can follow.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;How does this happen?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;“Scientists invoke the magic of large numbers… The beauty of the anthropic principle is that it tells us, against all intuition, that a chemical model need only predict that life will arise on one planet in a billion billion to give us a good and entirely satisfying explanation for the presence of life here.” &lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;(&lt;i style=""&gt;The God &lt;/i&gt;Delusions, 137-138)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;It’s really that simple.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Of course, with logic like this, it’s also simple to conclude that leprechauns exist at the end of some rainbow on some planet.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I think Varghese says it well, “Given this type of reasoning, which is better described as an audacious exercise in superstition, anything we desire should exist somewhere if we just ‘invoke the magic of large numbers.’&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Unicorns or the elixir of youth, even if ‘staggeringly impossible,’ are bound to occur ‘against all intuition.’&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The only requirement is a ‘chemical model’ that ‘need only predict’ these occurring ‘on one planet in a billion billion.’” &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, I’m wondering, is the best explanation possible? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Well, there’s always panspermia, but that only backs the boat up and doesn’t answer the question. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Can someone answer this question: how did life come from non-life (and why isn’t it happening today)? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-4132791329222355318?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/4132791329222355318/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=4132791329222355318' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4132791329222355318'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4132791329222355318'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/atheist-must-answer-origin-of-life.html' title='The Atheist Must Answer: The Origin of Life'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-6176049434857894398</id><published>2008-04-19T10:28:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-19T10:28:54.878-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Atheist Must Answer</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Every atheist, if he is to be respected, must offer a naturalist response to the following truths &lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;(taken from &lt;i style=""&gt;The Wonder of the World&lt;/i&gt; by Roy Abraham Varghese)&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;ol style="margin-top: 0in;" start="1" type="1"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;The      scientific method assumes that the world is understandable – and also      rational in the sense that its operations can be categorized under laws      and theories.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;Science      assumes that all events and phenomena have an explanation, that every      effect has a cause, although in the quantum realm, cause and effect can      only be &lt;i style=""&gt;identified&lt;/i&gt; at a      probabilistic level.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;The      world revealed by modern science is a world that (a) obeys fundamental      mathematical principles, (b) resembles computational systems with their      elaborate information processing and mapping of symbols, and (c) confirms      our assumption that it’s intelligible and rational.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;The      laws of nature describe certain regularities in the universe. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;But these laws are not just descriptions      of the regularities.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Rather, the      laws cause the regularities.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;The      laws of nature, particularly in relativity and quantum theory, can be      understood and structured in the most complex and logical thought-form      known to the human mind, that of mathematics. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Scientists have been stunned by the      one-to-one correspondence between the ‘program’ of nature and the programs      of independently discovered and developed by the mind. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Since symbolic thought and data      processing are peculiar to minds as distinct from particles or force      fields, it seems reasonable to assume that the laws of nature are      manifestations of a sophisticated mind. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;No wonder then that the quantum physicist      Paul Dirac said, “God is a mathematician of a very high order.”&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;The paradigm      of infinite Intelligence expressing itself through a hierarchy of      manifestations immediately makes of the most diverse phenomena in our      experience: rationality, intention, intelligence, beauty, and love. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The denial of this paradigm comes at a      heavy cost: we have to explain away the most obvious realities; the laws      of nature cannot be explained and the apparent correlation between cause      and effect, phenomenon and explanation is simply an illusion or at best a      coincidence; there is no such thing as consciousness or intention or      thought; finally, everything that seems ordered and intelligible is      actually random and irrational.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;So, as Varghese says, “There has to be intelligence in the laws of the universe or it would not exhibit the kind of rationality shown by the success of science… In a word, there’s some underlying structure about the way the world is made. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;And if it’s astonishing that the world exists at all, it’s just as astonishing that it’s a world with a structure.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Einstein said it best with his stunning declaration that anyone seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;To this point, I have seen no satisfactory answers offered by atheists to the above points.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I’m waiting and I have a feeling I’ll be waiting for awhile… &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-6176049434857894398?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/6176049434857894398/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=6176049434857894398' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6176049434857894398'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6176049434857894398'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/atheist-must-answer.html' title='The Atheist Must Answer'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-5865979072053119172</id><published>2008-04-16T15:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-16T15:35:12.412-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Spirituality – incarnation required</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Christian “Spirituality” seems to be everywhere and nowhere these days (to say nothing of non-Christian spirituality – even atheist spirituality!).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Countless Christians talk about “spirituality” and “spiritual” experiences, but no one seems to be able put their finger on their “spirituality” or their “spiritual experiences.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;No one seems to know what it is.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Why?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I think the Bible is pretty clear on this.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Paul says, “I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as &lt;span style=""&gt;living&lt;/span&gt; sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God-- this is your spiritual act of worship” (Romans 12:1).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;According to Paul, spirituality involves our bodies.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Paul even says we worship God &lt;i style=""&gt;with our bodies&lt;/i&gt;!&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Indentifying spirituality shouldn’t be any harder than pinching ourselves.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This means any spirituality devoid of the flesh isn’t Christian.&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;But there’s more: spirituality and worship involve Jesus’ body. In worship we do not experience the mere spiritual presence of God. We receive the real, bodily presence of God’s Son in, with, and under, the elements of bread and wine (after all, isn’t this what Jesus says? ‘This is my body…’&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And remember, the question isn’t, ‘Is this possible?’ but ‘Does Jesus speak truth?’)&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;This sacramental gift of God is not meant to be a spiritual experience in which we achieve communion with God through the ascension of our faith into heaven.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This Sacrament is a real gift in which Christ’s body actually descends to us and for us.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;As God’s redeemed, who have received Christ’s very body, we daily offer our bodies as living sacrifices in, with, and under our God-given vocations.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Whether we are a mother, a father, an employee, a student, or a neighbor, Christian Spirituality always involves our bodies and Christ’s body. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I guess you could say Christian spirituality is incarnational.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;As Joan Chittister says, Spirituality is “living the ordinary life extraordinarily well… if we are not spiritual where we are and as we are, we are not spiritual at all.” (quoted in Philip Yancey, &lt;i style=""&gt;Rumors of Another World&lt;/i&gt;. 65)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Our vocations may not appear “spiritual” by worldly standards, but according to God they embody spirituality and are even among the things with which God is most pleased.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;St.   Paul&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:City&gt; says, being a living sacrifice is “holy and pleasing to God.” &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-5865979072053119172?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/5865979072053119172/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=5865979072053119172' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/5865979072053119172'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/5865979072053119172'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/spirituality-incarnation-required.html' title='Spirituality – incarnation required'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-7687236233058288072</id><published>2008-04-15T13:35:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-15T13:38:48.230-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Asking the wrong questions?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.pr.mq.edu.au/culture/images/50/question%20mark.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 84px; height: 84px;" src="http://www.pr.mq.edu.au/culture/images/50/question%20mark.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;When it comes to theology, is it possible to ask the wrong questions? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Here’s what I mean: The Reformed/Protestant traditions often ask questions like these? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;1)&lt;span style=""&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;Is it possible for Christ’s body and blood to be present in the Sacrament?&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;2)&lt;span style=""&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;Is it possible for an infant to have faith?&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;These questions are usually answered “No. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;It’s not possible for Christ’s body to be present more than one place at one time.” And “No.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s not possible for infants to believe.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;And, as much as my three pound brain can figure, these answers are right. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;But what if they are the wrong questions? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;As a Lutheran (evangelical catholic), these aren’t the questions with which we begin. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;In fact, there’s only one real question we start by asking and it’s not “Is it possible.” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The question we ask is “Does God speak truth?”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;If the answer to this question is “yes,” then the answer to above questions (and others like it) will not be answered according to the capacity of my cranium, but in accordance with Scripture and I will not be the judge of the Word, but the Word the judge of me. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, if Jesus speaks truth and He says, “This is my body…” well, I guess He means it. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;And if the Scripture says the Spirit is poured out in baptism, well, I guess infants can have the Holy Spirit and faith. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I guess the task of the theologian then is to learn to ask the right question: “Does God speak truth?” &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Thoughts? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-7687236233058288072?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/7687236233058288072/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=7687236233058288072' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7687236233058288072'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7687236233058288072'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/asking-wrong-questions.html' title='Asking the wrong questions?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-6451402423091814496</id><published>2008-04-12T09:17:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-12T10:06:31.767-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Your Average Extraordinary God-glorifying Vocation: Parenthood</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Been thinking a bit lately bout vocation, specifically parenthood (obviously my thoughts won’t apply to everyone).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;There’s nothing glorious in diapers, duplos, and discipline… but why should I expect there to be?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Should I expect praise for doing my job?&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;No, there certainly isn’t glory for me.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For me there is a constant cross… For me there is a daily death… For me there is an unceasing self-denial…&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;And isn’t that what my vocation is supposed to be?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Isn’t that how my flesh is mortified? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Wingren says it well, “In one’s vocation there is a cross… and on this cross the old human nature is to be crucified. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Here the side of baptism which is concerned with death is fulfilled. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Christ died on the cross, and one who is baptized unto death with Christ must be put to death on the cross” &lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;Luther on Vocation &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;by Gustaf Wingren&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt; 29).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Wingren elaborates, “To understand what is meant by the cross of vocation, we need only remember that vocation is ordained by God to benefit, not him who fulfils the vocation, but the neighbor…. Under this cross are included even the most trivial of difficulties, such as: in marriage, the care of babes, which interferes with sleep and enjoyment; in government, unruly subjects and promoters of revolt; in the ministry, the whole resistance of reformation; in heavy labor, shabbiness, uncleanness, and the contempt of the proud” &lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;Luther on Vocation &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt;by Gustaf Wingren&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9pt;"&gt; 29).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;No, no glory for me.&lt;a style="" href="#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;For Jesus my Lord, my Redeemer, My Savior, however, there is glory. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;When I am faithful, He is glorified and God through Him… and when Jesus is glorified, I, well, I’m deeply satisfied. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;And isn’t that what makes parenthood an average extraordinary God-glorifying vocation? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;div style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;hr align="left" size="1" width="33%"&gt;  &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;  &lt;div style="" id="ftn1"&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;[1]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; No glory for me, but Scripture does speak of reward (in this life and the next) for faithfulness.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That, however, is for another post.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-6451402423091814496?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/6451402423091814496/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=6451402423091814496' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6451402423091814496'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6451402423091814496'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/your-average-extraordinary-god.html' title='Your Average Extraordinary God-glorifying Vocation: Parenthood'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-6295070429929041421</id><published>2008-04-09T11:41:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-09T11:52:50.255-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Perpetual Perdition per the Early Fathers</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In my previous post I discussed the Scriptural case for the eternity of Hell. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;While some question may be open today as to the interpretation of some of these texts, it seems the early church was virtually of one mind on this.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;While some today might feel free to depart from this tradition, I do not (not to mention my subscription to the Book of Concord which clearly teaches the eternity of hell).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Yes, it’s possible some details might differ, but on the eternity of hell, the early church agreed.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Before I could embrace any form of universalism and reject the eternity of hell, I would need to see some impressive arguments that would decisively overturn the interpretation of a whole lot of folks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Here are a few quotes from a few church fathers: &lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt; text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Ignatius of &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;Antioch&lt;/st1:City&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Corrupters of families will not inherit the &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:placetype st="on"&gt;kingdom&lt;/st1:PlaceType&gt;  of &lt;st1:placename st="on"&gt;God&lt;/st1:PlaceName&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;. And if they who do these things according to the flesh suffer death, how much more if a man corrupt by evil reaching the faith of God for the sake of which Jesus Christ was crucified? A man become so foul will depart into unquenchable fire, and so will anyone who listens to him (&lt;i&gt;Letter to the Ephesians&lt;/i&gt; 16:1-2 [&lt;b&gt;A.D. 110&lt;/b&gt;]).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt; text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Second Clement&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;If we do the will of Christ, we shall obtain rest; but if not, if we neglect his commandments, nothing will rescue us from eternal punishment (&lt;i&gt;Second Clement&lt;/i&gt; 5:5 [&lt;b&gt;A.D. 150&lt;/b&gt;]).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt; text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Justin Martyr&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;No more is it possible for the evildoer, the avaricious, and the treacherous to hide from God than it is for the virtuous. Every man will receive the eternal punishment or reward which his actions deserve. Indeed, if all men recognized this, no one would choose evil even for a short time, knowing that he would incur the eternal sentence of fire. On the contrary, he would take every means to control himself and to adorn himself in virtue, so that he might obtain the good gifts of God and escape the punishments (&lt;i&gt;First Apology&lt;/i&gt; 12 [&lt;b&gt;A.D. 151&lt;/b&gt;]).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;[Jesus] shall come from the heavens in glory with his angelic host, when he shall raise the bodies of all the men who ever lived. Then he will clothe the worthy in immortality; but the wicked, clothed in eternal sensibility, he will commit to the eternal fire, along with the evil demons (ibid. 52).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt; text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Theophilus of &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Antioch&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:City&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Give studious attention to the prophetic writings [the Bible] and they will lead you on a clearer path to escape the eternal punishments and to obtain the eternal good things of God.... [God] will examine everything and will judge justly, granting recompense to each according to merit. To those who seek immortally by the patient exercise of good works, he will give everlasting life, joy, peace, rest, and all good things. . . , For the unbelievers and for the contemptuous and for those who do not submit to the truth but assent to iniquity, when they have been involved in adulteries, and fornications, and homosexualities, and avarice, and in lawless idolatries, there will be wrath and indignation, tribulation and anguish; and in the end, such men as these will be detained in everlasting fire (&lt;i&gt;To Autolycus&lt;/i&gt; 1:14 [&lt;b&gt;A.D. 181&lt;/b&gt;]).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt; text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Irenaeus&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;The penalty increases for those who do not believe the Word of God and despise his coming. . . . It is not merely temporal, but eternal. To whomsoever the Lord shall say, "Depart from me, accursed ones, into the everlasting fire," they will be damned forever (&lt;i&gt;Against Heresies&lt;/i&gt; 4:28:2 [&lt;b&gt;A.D. 189&lt;/b&gt;]).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt; text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Hippolytus&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Standing before [Christ's] judgment, all of them, men, angels, and demons, crying out in one voice, shall say: "Just is your judgment!" And the righteousness of that cry will be apparent in the recompense made to each. To those who have done well, everlasting enjoyment shall be given; while to the lovers of evil shall be given eternal punishment. The unquenchable and unending fire awaits these latter, and a certain fiery worm which does not die and which does not waste the body but continually bursts forth from the body with unceasing pain. No sleep will give them rest; no night will soothe them; no death will deliver them from punishment; no appeal of interceding friends will profit them (&lt;i&gt;Against the Greeks&lt;/i&gt; 3 [&lt;b&gt;A.D. 212&lt;/b&gt;]).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt; text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Cyprian of &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Carthage&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:City&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;An ever-burning Gehenna and the punishment of being devoured by living flames will consume the condemned; nor will there be any way in which the tormented can ever have respite or be at an end. Souls along with their bodies will be preserved for suffering in unlimited agonies. . . . The grief at punishment will then be without the fruit of repentance; weeping will be useless, and prayer ineffectual. Too late will they believe in eternal punishment, who would not believe in eternal life (&lt;i&gt;To Demetrian&lt;/i&gt; 24 [&lt;b&gt;A.D. 252&lt;/b&gt;]).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt; text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;Cyril of &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Jerusalem&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:City&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p style="margin: 5pt 15pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"&gt;We shall be raised therefore, all with our bodies eternal, but not all with bodies alike; For if a man is righteous, he will receive a heavenly body, that he may be able worthily to hold converse with angels; but if a man is a sinner, he shall receive an eternal body, fitted to endure the penalties of sins, that he may burn eternally in fire, nor ever be consumed. And righteously will God assign this portion to either company; for we do nothing without the body. We blaspheme with the mouth, and with the mouth we pray. With the body we commit fornication, and with the body we keep chastity. With the hand we rob, and by the hand we bestow alms; and the rest in like manner. Since then the body has been our minister in all things, it shall also share with us in the future the fruits of the past (&lt;i&gt;Catechetical Lectures&lt;/i&gt; 18:19 [&lt;b&gt;A.D. 350&lt;/b&gt;]).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-6295070429929041421?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/6295070429929041421/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=6295070429929041421' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6295070429929041421'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6295070429929041421'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/perpetual-perdition-per-early-fathers.html' title='Perpetual Perdition per the Early Fathers'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-6795450603641926302</id><published>2008-04-08T20:38:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-13T20:00:12.012-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Perpetual Perdition?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In the following paragraphs&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt; I’m going to argue for something I really don’t want to be true.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;In fact, I would really like to be wrong on this, but as I’ve searched the Scriptures, I believe this conclusion takes into account the whole of the Biblical account.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;READER BE WARNED: YOU NEED FIVE MINUTES TO READ THIS AND 30 TO CONSIDER ITS IMPLICATIONS!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;As most people know, the Bible has numerous references to “hell.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;As far as I’m aware, few people actually deny hell exists and that people go there.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Many people, however, seem to suggest hell won’t endure for eternity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Are they right?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;(Honestly, I wish they were.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Here’s how I see it:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;On the one hand, the Bible says all people have been forgiven.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;So that means everyone is/will be saved right?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Well, on the other hand, it says some will go away to hell forever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;So, the question is: is this hell really eternal – as in never ending torment?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;People often object to the doctrine of eternal hell for a few reasons: 1) God says He wants all people to be saved and because He’s sovereign, He’ll accomplish His desires.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;2) The punishment of eternal hell doesn’t meet the crime – eternity is too long.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;3) God is a God of love and He wouldn’t damn people for eternity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:100%;" &gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;While several passages talk about hell, here are the ones that mention its eternity:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=""&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 115%;font-size:100%;" &gt;Then they will go away to &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;eternal punishment&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, but the righteous to eternal life.” (&lt;b style=""&gt;Matthew 25:46&lt;/b&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=""&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;eternal&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;sin&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. (&lt;b style=""&gt;Mark 3:29&lt;/b&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=""&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;If anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck. If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;hell&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, where the &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;fire never goes out&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;hell&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;hell&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, where "&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;'their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.' (&lt;b style=""&gt;Mark 9:42-48&lt;/b&gt;)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=""&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;All this is evidence that God's judgment is right, and as a result you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering. God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to you who are troubled, and to us as well. This will happen when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in blazing fire with his powerful angels. He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;everlasting destruction&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;shut out from the presence of the Lord&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; and from the majesty of his power on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you. (&lt;b style=""&gt;2 Thessalonians 1:5-10&lt;/b&gt;)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=""&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;punishment of eternal fire&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. (&lt;b style=""&gt;Jude 1:7&lt;/b&gt;)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=""&gt;         &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;tormented with burning sulfur&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. There is &lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;no rest&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name." (&lt;b style=""&gt;Revelation 14:9-11&lt;/b&gt;)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="sup"  style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="sup"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Personally, these verses make me shudder (especially&lt;/span&gt; because half of them came from the lips of Jesus)!&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="sup"&gt;Now, some have claimed “eternal” means “for an age” or some such equivalent.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;And I suppose you could argue that on one or two passages (although I really don’t think it would hold up exegetically), but it really seems unlikely that all six passages actually mean “for an age.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If hell was meant to be understood as non-eternal, why does the Bible nowhere clearly indicate this?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why does it use so many different words for “forever”?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="sup"&gt;At some point, it becomes quite difficult to make a Scriptural case for a non-eternal hell.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yes, the Bible does say Jesus forgave the whole world, but in my mind, it is far easier to qualify these statements (i.e. Jesus purchased forgiveness for all people, but not all want it) than it is to qualify the statements of hell (i.e. the Bible says hell lasts forever, but it means “for a time”).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Even more, the early church fathers interpreted the Scriptures this way as did the Lutheran reformers – and they wrote it in their confessions (The Augsburg Confession and The Apology of the Augsburg Confession).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="sup"&gt;Now, on the concept of punishment matching crime, I think Aquinas actually explains this well: “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;The magnitude of the punishment matches the magnitude of the sin… Now a sin that is against God is infinite; the higher the person against whom it is committed, the graver the sin – it is more criminal to strike the head of state than a private citizen – and God is of infinite greatness.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Therefore an infinite punishment is deserved for a sin committed against him.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;And as for being uncomfortable that a loving God could send someone to an eternal hell, well, I guess we’ve just got to get our concept of God from the Scriptures and not our own notions of what is just and right.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Obviously, this only scratches the surface, but at least it’s a start and, like I said above, I wish it weren’t true.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="sup"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-6795450603641926302?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/6795450603641926302/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=6795450603641926302' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6795450603641926302'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6795450603641926302'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/perpetual-perdition.html' title='Perpetual Perdition?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-5278817203914940454</id><published>2008-04-06T21:46:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T21:48:00.290-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Syllogisms of Salvation: Part II</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;The Lutheran Syllogism of Salvation &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.5in; text-indent: -1.5in;"&gt;Major Premise:&lt;span style=""&gt;                 &lt;/span&gt;Christ told me*, “I baptize you in the name of the Father and of the Son          and&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;of the Holy Spirit.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.5in; text-indent: -1.5in;"&gt;Minor Premise:&lt;span style=""&gt;                 &lt;/span&gt;Christ never lies but only tells the truth.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.5in; text-indent: -1.5in;"&gt;Conclusion:&lt;span style=""&gt;                         &lt;/span&gt;I am baptized (that is, I have new life in Christ).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.5in; text-indent: -1.5in;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.5in; text-indent: -1.5in;"&gt;*Christ speaks through the mouth of the called pastor.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Result of Syllogism:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;1.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;There are no conditions established about what we are required to decide or believe in order to ensure the promise applies to me.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;2.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;The minor premise isn’t about our faith, but about the truth of Christ.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;3.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;Whereas the Protestant syllogism required us to believe that we believed, the Lutheran system calls us to believe that what God says is true.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;4.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;The Lutheran need: believe the Word of Christ.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Luther’s Teaching:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Luther taught that fundamentally faith says, “God speaks truth.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Only after this did faith say, “I believe.” (So Calvin’s syllogism isn’t necessarily wrong, it’s just misplaced – it shouldn’t be fundamental, but secondary.)&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;According to Luther, faith may say, “My faith is weak” or “Lord, I believe, help my unbelief,” but faith, if it is to remain faith, cannot deny the truth of God’s Word.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In short, faith does not rely on faith; faith relies on the Word.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;End Result: &lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; doesn’t mean we rely on our faith; it means we rely on the truth of God’s Word.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In Luther’s words, “Whoever allows himself to be baptized on the strength of his faith, is not only uncertain [because he doesn’t know for certain whether he believes], but also an idolater who denies Christ.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For he trusts in and builds on something of his own, namely a gift which he has from God [that is, faith], and not on God’s Word alone.” &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;Nota Bene:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Eternal salvation requires the gift of persevering in the faith and Luther (along with Calvin and others) did not suggest this gift was given in Baptism – Baptism isn’t a magical, free ticket, but that’s for another post. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-5278817203914940454?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/5278817203914940454/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=5278817203914940454' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/5278817203914940454'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/5278817203914940454'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/syllogisms-of-salvation-part-ii.html' title='Syllogisms of Salvation: Part II'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-7519303672313438954</id><published>2008-04-06T21:44:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-06T21:45:53.099-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Syllogisms of Salvation: Part I</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;A couple days ago I read an article in CTQ (Concordia Theological Quarterly) that I think helpfully summarized the difference between a Protestant and Lutheran understand of &lt;i style=""&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I will post it in two parts.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Part 1: The Protestant Understanding&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Part 2: The Lutheran Understanding&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;The Protestant Syllogism of Salvation&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Major Premise: &lt;span style=""&gt;                                &lt;/span&gt;Whoever believes in Jesus is saved.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Minor Premise:&lt;span style=""&gt;                 &lt;/span&gt;I believe in Jesus.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Conclusion:&lt;span style=""&gt;                         &lt;/span&gt;I am saved.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Result of Syllogism:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;1.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;We must not only believe, but &lt;i style=""&gt;know &lt;/i&gt;that we believe.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In other words, salvation means believing we believe in Jesus.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;2.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;       &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;The Protestant need is “the assurance of faith.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Calvin’s teaching:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Calvin distinguished between temporary faith and true saving faith (faith that perseveres).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;According to Calvin, we should be able to know if we have true saving faith.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Those with temporary faith may think they have true saving faith, but are just wrong (a very disturbing thought).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;How are we to know?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Calvin instructs us to look inward for evidence of true saving faith because &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;true faith bears fruit in sanctification (which is 100% true according to Scripture), but the noticed growth in sanctification is supposed to assure us of our faith.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In other words, our assurance of faith is supposed to come from our own heart (this is why Protestants often speak of the moment they were saved – it was the moment they believed they believed). &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;End result&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;i style=""&gt;sola fide&lt;/i&gt; is about faith in our faith alone or believing that we believe in Christ alone.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;My next post will be on the Lutheran teaching. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-7519303672313438954?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/7519303672313438954/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=7519303672313438954' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7519303672313438954'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7519303672313438954'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/syllogisms-of-salvation-part-i.html' title='Syllogisms of Salvation: Part I'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-580328235325850704</id><published>2008-04-04T09:38:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-04T09:40:55.464-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Saved by...?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;After reading Danny’s and Daniel’s post on (saving) faith in infants and started thinking: some questions are great philosophical questions, but less than helpful theological questions.  For example, a great philosophical question is, "Can God create a rock bigger than He can lift?"  No doubt an interesting discussion could ensue on the nature and power of God and so forth, but theologically, it's not the best question.  The Bible would ask the question this way, "Has God created you and is He your rock?"  The answer: "Yes, and you can't move Him, so trust Him and find refuge in Him."     &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Daniel, on &lt;a href="http://www.allpossibleworlds.blogspot.com/"&gt;www.allpossibleworlds.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt; has asked a great philosophical question about (saving) faith in the context of infants (or mentally challenged individuals). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;He wondered if belief (in adults) might be the result of faith (understood as the giving of the Holy Spirit).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So “belief” (our understanding and ability to believe) isn’t necessarily necessary for saving faith, the Spirit who gives Christ is. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Here are my thoughts on the matter:&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In regards to your faith and belief question, I think you might be getting close to a helpful distinction.  Lutheran theological Arthur Carl Piepkorn says it this way, "To have faith in the context of infant baptism means to have become a person in whom God has initiated His work of sanctification and to whom he has given the Holy Spirit.  As the individual matures, the Holy Spirit enables him so to see in the divine word God's revelation of His gracious self and of His saving purpose in Christ that the individual comes to know, trust, and worship Christ…" (The Church: Selected Writings of Arthur Carl Piepkorn, 230) &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So we could phrase our philosophical problem this way: &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;1)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;Those who have the Holy Spirit are saved.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;2)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;The Holy Spirit is given in Baptism (obviously rejected by Reformed churches today – Reformed being understood as non-Catholic and non-Lutheran)&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;3)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;Infants are baptized.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;4)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 7pt;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Therefore infants have the Holy Spirit and are saved. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, our focus is turned away form "personal faith" (a phrase the Bible never uses anyway) to the Holy Spirit and the Sacraments (what the Bible emphasizes).  Asking if infants can believe might just be the wrong question.  Do they have the mental capacity to understand the Trinity?  No, but who really does?  Can they receive the Holy Spirit? Yes. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;By the way, the emphasis on "personal faith" comes out of the Reformed (non-Lutheran and non-Catholic) tradition.  If you can't look to any tangible means whereby God gives His Spirit and promises, you are forced to look inward and start asking questions like, "Do I believe enough?"&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;(Also important in the Reformed tradition, “Am I one of the elect?” – for another post)   &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;And when we speak of being saved by "faith alone," I think it's important to remember that it isn't our activity of believing that saves us, but the object of our faith – Christ who saves us.  &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, I guess my point is starting with "personal faith" as our criteria for salvation isn't a helpful (or Biblical) question and it only leaves us with a "pretty fierce theological dilemma."  And really, any time we start delving into the depths of what people believe / are capable of believing, we stray from Scripture's emphasis on the Spirit and promises of God in Christ.  Only in Christ do we find any certainty.  All other philosophical questions are interesting, but ultimately unanswerable.  &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-580328235325850704?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/580328235325850704/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=580328235325850704' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/580328235325850704'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/580328235325850704'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/saved-by.html' title='Saved by...?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-7234135784045073882</id><published>2008-04-03T09:37:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-03T09:42:14.650-05:00</updated><title type='text'>What is sufficient for salvation?</title><content type='html'>Thanks to Danny on &lt;a href="http://www.allpossibleworlds.blogspot.com/"&gt;www.allpossibleworlds.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt; for raising this question. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;As he worded it, “What is required for salvation? The answer I have always heard growing up is that one must believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, He died and rose for my sins, and I that I must accept Him into my heart. This seems to make sense until one reads Romans 1:18-20…”&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Below are my thoughts on the matter (WARNING: it might take you five whole minutes to read it!)&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;First, what we know with certainty from the Bible:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;What the Bible says about man:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;All people inherit Adam’s sin and are therefore conceived and born sinful (Psa 51:5, Rom. 3:12).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;The unbeliever is “lost,” “blind,” “dead,” and a “slave to sin.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For this reason he does not and cannot seek God (&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;Rom.&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt; 8:7).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;Those who reject the truth will be condemned to an eternity of torment in hell (Mat. 25:41, Rom. 2:8-9).&lt;/p&gt;      &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;What the Bible says about God:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;God has revealed Himself to mankind in many ways (creation, burning bush, dreams/visions, pillars of fire/cloud, shekinah glory in the &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;Temple&lt;/st1:City&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;), but in these last days He has revealed Himself to us in Jesus (Heb. 1:1-2)&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;God is merciful, compassionate, and abounding in steadfast love (Psa. 86:15).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;    &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;God wants all people to be saved (2 Pet. 3:9). &lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;God is just (2 The. 1:5-10) and for this reason will judge sin and unbelief.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;What the Bible says about salvation:&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;God’s judgment of all people’s sin has fallen on Jesus (Isa. 53:6, 1 Pet. 2:24).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;Salvation is found in Jesus only (Acts 4:12).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.25in; text-align: justify; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;Salvation is for those who receive Jesus by faith (Eph. 2:8-9).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"&gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;Life on the New Earth is reserved for those who are saved (Rev. 21:27).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;This is what we know with certainty. Now, what about people who have never heard about God’s revelation &lt;i style=""&gt;in Jesus&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Will they be saved or not?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In Romans 10:17-18 the apostle Paul asks himself this very question.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Speaking about Jews of his time, Paul says, “&lt;span style=""&gt;faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ. But I ask: Did they not hear?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;If you didn’t know what Paul said next, you might expect him to say, “They didn’t hear, so they aren’t accountable for rejecting God,” but that’s not what he says.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Surprisingly, he says, “Of course they did: ‘Their voice has gone out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world.’”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Paul answers his question by quoting Psalm 19, which begins “The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. Their voice goes out into all the earth, their words to the ends of the world” (19:1-4).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;In other words, God has revealed Himself in more ways than Jesus.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;One of the many and various ways He has revealed Himself is creation.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Those who don’t recognize His revelation as Creator and respond by worshiping Him will be held accountable.&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Paul also spoke about this in Romans 1:20, where he says, “&lt;span style=""&gt;since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.”&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Paul is clear: God has revealed Himself to all people as the world’s Creator so as to leave people no excuse for rejecting Him.&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Having said that, the question remains: “What about those who recognize God’s revelation in creation and worship Him alone as the Creator, but have not heard about Jesus?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Some have concluded that God only holds people accountable for the revelation they have received.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;This opinion is very appealing and many think Paul seems to imply this (and I’m willing to leave this door open), but I don’t think Scripture &lt;i style=""&gt;explicitly&lt;/i&gt; teaches this. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Therefore we shouldn’t either.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;That, however, doesn’t mean we throw up our hands in despair and think no more about it.&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Because we are uncertain about the salvation of people who have not heard of Jesus, shouldn’t we passionately and energetically pursue and support mission work around the globe with our prayers and our money?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Shouldn’t our uncertainty drive our mission?&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;Even more than asking “What about those who don’t know Jesus?”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We should be asking “What about those of us who do know Jesus?”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What are we doing with our knowledge?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;We might not know the answer to every question, but we do know the question that every one of us must answer: “Can I stand idly by while millions live and die without knowing Jesus?”&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;              &lt;p style="text-align: center;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;"&gt;Let none hear you idly saying,&lt;br /&gt;“There is nothing I can do,”&lt;br /&gt;While the multitudes are dying&lt;br /&gt;And the Master calls for you.&lt;br /&gt;Take the task He gives you gladly,&lt;br /&gt;Let His work your pleasure be;&lt;br /&gt;Answer quickly when He calleth,”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;!--[if gte vml 1]&gt;&lt;v:shapetype id="_x0000_t202" coordsize="21600,21600" spt="202" path="m,l,21600r21600,l21600,xe"&gt;  &lt;v:stroke joinstyle="miter"&gt;  &lt;v:path gradientshapeok="t" connecttype="rect"&gt; &lt;/v:shapetype&gt;&lt;v:shape id="_x0000_s1026" type="#_x0000_t202" style="'position:absolute;" strokeweight="2.25pt"&gt;&lt;![endif]--&gt;&lt;!--[if !vml]--&gt;&lt;span style="position: absolute; z-index: 1; margin-left: 406px; margin-top: 0px; width: 248px; height: 164px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;"&gt;Here am I, send me, send me!”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="position: relative; z-index: 1;"&gt;&lt;span style="position: absolute; left: 142px; top: -2px; width: 248px; height: 164px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-7234135784045073882?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/7234135784045073882/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=7234135784045073882' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7234135784045073882'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7234135784045073882'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-is-sufficient-for-salvation.html' title='What is sufficient for salvation?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-4744027837881786514</id><published>2008-04-01T14:37:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-04-01T14:45:01.285-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Hunger in Heaven?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://themagazine.info/56/CatPictures/Alessi%20Silverware.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 146px; height: 146px;" src="http://themagazine.info/56/CatPictures/Alessi%20Silverware.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Last week’s Gospel reading (John 20:19-31) got me thinking, will we &lt;i style=""&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to eat once we have received our resurrected bodies on the New Earth?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Jesus certainly ate after He rose from the dead, but did He &lt;i style=""&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to eat or was it simply to prove He had a flesh and bones body (Luke 24:39)? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Isaiah envisions “rich foods… the best meats and the finest of wines” on the New Earth (personally I’m hoping for a little cabernet sauvignon – I savor the iron fist in a velvet glove and can only imagine heaven’s version!).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So, it sure seems food will be there, but will we &lt;i style=""&gt;need &lt;/i&gt;it? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The little I know about early church fathers tells me they were split on this.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If I recall, Tertullian confessed the literalness of the resurrected body, but rejected the idea that we would eat at all (although I think he might have been influenced by Platonism – someone correct me if I’m wrong).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Augustine seems to have thought we would eat for enjoyment, but not &lt;i style=""&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; to eat to survive. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;My limited reasoning abilities tell me if God designed our bodies to need and enjoy food in &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Eden&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:City&gt;, it would be logically consistent for us to need and enjoy it in the redeemed and restored New Earth.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Of course, perhaps one of the characteristics of the upgrade to the resurrected body is freedom from the &lt;i style=""&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; of any thing to sustain us save God (not by bread alone, but by every Word from the Lord).&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Could this be one of the qualities of the “spiritual body” (1 Cor. 15:44)?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In his &lt;i style=""&gt;The Two natures of Christ, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Chemnitz&lt;/st1:place&gt; quotes Augustine who says, “The (resurrected) bodies will be spiritual, not because they cease to be bodies, but because they live by the life-giving Spirit” (429). &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, will we &lt;i style=""&gt;need &lt;/i&gt;to eat on the New Earth? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-4744027837881786514?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/4744027837881786514/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=4744027837881786514' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4744027837881786514'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4744027837881786514'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/04/hunger-in-heaven.html' title='Hunger in Heaven?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-5445986962070627977</id><published>2008-03-31T20:33:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-31T20:35:08.215-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Intellectually fulfilled atheist – really?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://images.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_TN/0269-0606-1214-1520_TN.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 75px; height: 104px;" src="http://images.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_TN/0269-0606-1214-1520_TN.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Over 20 years ago Richard Dawkins claimed Darwinian evolution allowed him to become “an intellectually fulfilled atheist.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Did he come to that conclusion on his own?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Here’s why I ask, if evolution is true, free will is a myth; determinism rules the day.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;All things that exist are just the accidental and random byproduct of a purposeless Big Bang some 13.7 billion years ago – this would include Dawkins claim.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Personally, I wouldn’t find that very intellectually fulfilling – no free will, no independent thoughts, no true discovery – only random neurons firing until I fade from existence (and let’s be sure to rule out any Theistic evolution too – the thought of God guiding&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;a purposeless, unguided process is quite contrary to reason).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Really, can determinism be intellectually fulfilling? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Is this something atheists choose to overlook to soothe their naturalistic souls? &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In contradistinction to Dawkins and all his “intellectually fulfilled” atheist friends, I find freedom to think my own thoughts quite intellectually stimulating. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;In fact, I find it very fulfilling to think that in the learning, studying, questioning, and growing process, I might be thinking the Creator’s thoughts after Him. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Any thoughts? (Assuming they are your thoughts and not some random neurons shooting off for no reason).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-5445986962070627977?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/5445986962070627977/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=5445986962070627977' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/5445986962070627977'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/5445986962070627977'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/03/intellectually-fulfilled-atheist-really.html' title='Intellectually fulfilled atheist – really?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-7920398151801839269</id><published>2008-03-27T09:27:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-27T09:30:45.974-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Light’s Glittering Morn</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:AGaramondPro-Regular;"&gt;Light’s glittering morn bedecks the sky;&lt;br /&gt;Heav’n thunders forth its victory cry;&lt;br /&gt;The glad earth shouts her triumph high,&lt;br /&gt;And groaning hell makes wild reply,&lt;br /&gt;While He, the King, the mighty King&lt;br /&gt;Despoiling death of all its sting,&lt;br /&gt;And trampling down the pow’rs of night,&lt;br /&gt;Brings forth His ransomed Saints to light.&lt;br /&gt;That Eastertide with joy was bright,&lt;br /&gt;The sun shone out with fairer light,&lt;br /&gt;When to their longing eyes restor’d&lt;br /&gt;Th’Apostles saw their risen Lord:&lt;br /&gt;He bade them see His hands, His side,&lt;br /&gt;Where yet the glorious wounds abide;&lt;br /&gt;Those tokens true with made it plain&lt;br /&gt;Their Lord indeed was risen again.&lt;br /&gt;O Jesu, King of gentleness,&lt;br /&gt;Do Thou Thyself our hearts possess;&lt;br /&gt;That we may give Thee all our days,&lt;br /&gt;The tribute of our grateful praise.&lt;br /&gt;O Lord of all with us abide.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;                        &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:AGaramondPro-Regular;"&gt;The strife is o’er, the battle done,&lt;br /&gt;In this our joyful Eastertide;&lt;br /&gt;The victory of life is won,&lt;br /&gt;From ev’ry weapon death can wield,&lt;br /&gt;Thine own redeemed for ever shield.&lt;br /&gt;The song of triumph has begun.&lt;br /&gt;Alleluia.&lt;br /&gt;All praise be thine, O risen Lord,&lt;br /&gt;From death to endless life restored;&lt;br /&gt;All praise to God, the Father be,&lt;br /&gt;And Holy Ghost eternally.&lt;br /&gt;Alleluia. Amen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:AGaramondPro-Italic;"&gt;Horatio W. Parker (1863-1919)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-7920398151801839269?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/7920398151801839269/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=7920398151801839269' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7920398151801839269'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7920398151801839269'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/03/lights-glittering-morn.html' title='Light’s Glittering Morn'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-696624165561425511</id><published>2008-03-21T15:25:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-21T15:27:46.810-05:00</updated><title type='text'>No More Marriage or Marriage for Evermore?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/75/08/23050875.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 158px; height: 160px;" src="http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/75/08/23050875.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I’ve always struggled with Jesus’ words in Mark 12, “&lt;span style=""&gt;When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;My hang up?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I like my wife and it’s hard for me to imagine not being married to her.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I can recite the usual answer about temporal, earthly marriage being an image of the eternal, Heavenly/New Earthly marriage between Christ and the Church and all that, but I still struggle with it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;So, I was surprised when I saw the way Ben Witherington III answered this question in his book &lt;i style=""&gt;Jesus the Seer&lt;/i&gt; (which really isn’t about marriage – just one paragraph).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Here’s what he said: “the discussion (in Mark 12) is about levirate marriage, not all marriages, and in a deathless state there would be no more point to levirate marriage.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Levirate marriage is unlike regular marriage because it only exists because of death: the obligation to raise up an heir for a deceased brother was felt to require such an institution. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Furthermore, Jesus does not say there will be no more state of marriage in the kingdom; he says there will be no more new acts of marrying – no marrying (the male’s role in a patriarchal situation) or being given in marriage (the bride’s role). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;To this one may add that early Jews did not generally think that angels were sexless creatures… There is thus nothing in Mark 12 to support the notion that Jesus saw marriage as ceasing in the resurrection. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;What Jesus taught was that there would be no more change of status in the resurrection.” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;I’ve not heard this take before. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I’d certainly like for him to be right. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The obvious question is “What about those who have remarried (whether due to death or divorce)? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;And what about the polygamous patriarchs?”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Whose spouse will be whose? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-696624165561425511?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/696624165561425511/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=696624165561425511' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/696624165561425511'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/696624165561425511'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/03/no-more-marriage-or-marriage-for.html' title='No More Marriage or Marriage for Evermore?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-9133960497673386123</id><published>2008-03-15T10:51:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-16T19:55:29.521-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Privileged Planet</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?id=312"&gt;&lt;img style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; WIDTH: 137px; CURSOR: pointer; HEIGHT: 196px; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?id=312" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;amp;postID=9133960497673386123"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I stayed up past my bed time last night watching &lt;i&gt;The &lt;/i&gt;Privileged Planet. &lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;If you haven’t seen it, do.&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;?xml:namespace prefix = o /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;A few highlights:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;Earth is fine tuned to sustain complex life&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in" type="circle"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;Scientists have composed a list of roughly 20 variables that must be in place simultaneously for complex life to exist (like the strong nuclear force holding protons and neutrons together, earth’s distance from the sun, the size of earth’s moon, and many more)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;Earth is located in a small region of habitability (the habitable zone) within our solar system&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;Our solar system is located in a small region of habitability within our galaxy&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;But what was really interesting is that we’re not only located in a habitable zone, but we’re positioned in a place ideal for scientific discovery in our universe. &lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Astrologist Guillermo Gonzalez says, “The most habitable places in the universe also offer the best opportunity for scientific discovery. &lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;I believe this implies purpose.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;It’s almost like God hand-picked the perfect place for us to learn about His creation.&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;And with such a privileged position, why wouldn’t we eagerly learn as much as we could about God’s handiwork?&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:';font-size:100%;"&gt;Check out the website: &lt;a href="http://www.privilegedplanet.com/"&gt;http://www.privilegedplanet.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-9133960497673386123?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/9133960497673386123/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=9133960497673386123' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/9133960497673386123'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/9133960497673386123'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/03/privileged-planet.html' title='The Privileged Planet'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-6518250312046100412</id><published>2008-03-15T10:28:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T10:30:38.405-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Paradise Temporarily on Pause?</title><content type='html'>From the cross Jesus says to a criminal, “…today you will be with me in paradise.” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;From what I’ve read “paradise” seems to be a reference to “God’s garden,” which is itself an eschatological image of the new creation, but I’d love to learn more about “paradise.” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;(I know it shows up in 2 Corinthians 12:4 and Revelation 2:7 too.)&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;My real question is this: When did this criminal join Jesus in paradise? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;In other words, what are we to make out of the word “today”? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Jesus was in the tomb until Sunday, so the criminal couldn’t have joined him in paradise “today.” &lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Is this just Luke’s unique way of emphasizing the immediacy of salvation? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;(&lt;i style=""&gt;Today&lt;/i&gt; salvation has come to this house… etc.) &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-6518250312046100412?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/6518250312046100412/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=6518250312046100412' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6518250312046100412'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6518250312046100412'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/03/paradise-temporarily-on-pause.html' title='Paradise Temporarily on Pause?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-906300231340955125</id><published>2008-03-15T09:42:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2008-03-15T10:27:38.235-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Time tirelessly ticks; I don’t.</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.hiring-revolution.com/wp-content/uploads/clock.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 186px; height: 186px;" src="http://www.hiring-revolution.com/wp-content/uploads/clock.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;With Holy Week ready to make Lent’s final assault, I’ve cleared my calendar from all distractions and am now ready to make my charge.   &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Sermons have been written.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Services have been crafted.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;People are being organized.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Palms are green with anticipation.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Lilies lie in wait.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Flags are ready to fly.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Allelu**s are ready to be sung.&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;While everything waits in the ready, Lent has exacted its cost: my time is not mine.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I belong not to me.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It has taken nearly six weeks of sermonizing and studying the Word ad nauseam, but I get it (again).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It’s not about me. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I will die with Christ on Good Friday in joyful anticipation of the resurrection.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-906300231340955125?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/906300231340955125/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=906300231340955125' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/906300231340955125'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/906300231340955125'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/03/time-tirelessly-ticks-i-dont.html' title='Time tirelessly ticks; I don’t.'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-1910318005413284840</id><published>2008-02-15T15:07:00.002-06:00</published><updated>2008-02-15T15:08:39.970-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Genesis 1: Straight talk or Circumlocution?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://arb0rv1tae.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/stjohnbible_creation.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 239px; height: 340px;" src="http://arb0rv1tae.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/stjohnbible_creation.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Genesis 1 – is the point to convey what really happened or a roundabout way of saying “God created”? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;For a moment, let’s follow the crowd: there’s no way Genesis is literal; the point is God created. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Great.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;God guided evolution (or set the process in motion and let er go). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;What I love about this solution is that it works great for every person who doesn’t read his Bible. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The problem is I am one of those eccentric souls who actually read mine. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;What am I supposed to do when I get to Genesis 3 and I read that the penalty for sin is death?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If millions of years of evolution passed before Adam, then millions of years of death passed before Adam, then Adam’s sin didn’t cause death – God did and used it as His mechanism to create. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;And if God’s mechanism to drive evolution was to weed out the weak, why do we strive to keep them alive?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Shouldn’t we endeavor to eliminate the frail, the feeble, and the pathetic? (Is it any wonder eugenics and assisted suicide have been accepted by so many?) &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;What am I supposed to do when I get to Exodus 20:11 and God inscribes in the Ten Commandments that the basis for our seven day week is the creation week? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;What am I supposed to do when I get to Mark 10:16 and Jesus declares that “at the beginning” God made them “male and female”? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;If Adam and Eve didn’t enter the scene until 12 billion some years after the beginning, what is Jesus talking about? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;What am I supposed to do when I get to Romans 5:12 and Paul asserts that death entered the world through Adam?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If millions of years of evolution and death passed before Adam, then Paul got it wrong. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;And let’s say I’m okay with the above problems and still insist on jamming millions of years into Genesis 1 to make it fit the latest evolutionary theory, do I have to change the order too? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Genesis says the earth came before the sun; evolution claims the opposite. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Genesis says the plants came before the sun; evolution claims the opposite. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Genesis says birds came before reptiles, evolution claims the opposite. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;And yet most Christians are okay with this and even defend it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Case in point: the Clergy Letter Project (Google it). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Even the pope accepts it (Benedict, JP, and Pious) (Google “Evolution and the Roman Catholic Church”).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Never mind that evolution wreaks havoc on Scripture and numerous Biblical teachings; the majority accepts it, so that settles it. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I think Charles Spurgeon said it well, “We are invited, brethren, most earnestly to go away from the old-fashioned belief of our forefathers because of the supposed discoveries of science.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What is science?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The method by which man tries to conceal his ignorance.  It should not be so, but so it is.  You are not to be dogmatic in theology my brethren, it is wicked; but for scientific men it is the correct thing.  You are never to assert anything very strongly; but scientists may boldly assert what they cannot prove, and may demand a faith far more credulous than any we possess.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Forsooth, you and I are to take our Bibles and shape and mould our belief according to the ever-shifting teachings of so-called scientific men.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What folly is this!&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why, the march of science, falsely so called, through the world may be traced by exploded fallacies and abandoned theories. Former explorers once adored are now ridiculed; the continual wreckings of false hypotheses is a matter of universal notoriety.  You may tell where the learned have encamped by the debris left behind of suppositions and theories as plentiful as broken bottles.”&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The short of it: evolution can’t dance with the Bible.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We either follow the Bible’s lead or get a new partner. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Later I’ll blog about the two mechanisms (mutation and natural selection) that supposedly drive evolution forward while, in reality, doing the opposite.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-1910318005413284840?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/1910318005413284840/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=1910318005413284840' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/1910318005413284840'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/1910318005413284840'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/02/genesis-1-straight-talk-or.html' title='Genesis 1: Straight talk or Circumlocution?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-6677644352550884576</id><published>2008-02-09T10:10:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-02-09T10:15:40.073-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Starlight, Starbright, How old are you?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://celestialdelights.info/pub/sn_new.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 210px; height: 210px;" src="http://celestialdelights.info/pub/sn_new.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;100 billion stars in the Milky Way.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;100 billion galaxies in the visible universe with millions to trillions of stars in each one and Psalm 147 tells us, “He determines the number of the stars and calls them each by name”!  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The question, however, is, “When did God create the stars?” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;The Bible clearly states “Day 4.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Some try to reinterpret “Day” to mean “epoch” or “era,” but Genesis 1 doesn’t allow this interpretation.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The Hebrew is pretty straight forward - the days are literal, 24 hour days (and just in case there was any doubt, Exodus 20:11 supports it). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;So, if we just read the text, we come away with six, 24 hour days and an earth that is only several thousand years old. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;How then can starlight take millions of years to reach earth? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;(the answer is going to take awhile, but it’s worth it)&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Some well-meaning Christians have tried to posit an “in-transit” theory of starlight. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;What then are we to conclude about supernovas?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If the light was in-transit and if the earth is only several thousand years old, then the supernovas astronomers have witnessed didn’t really happen because there hasn’t been enough time for the light from the explosion to reach earth. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;If this is so then God created the appearance of a supernova.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In other words, God is deceiving us – doesn’t sound like the God of the Bible.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So now what?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Let’s start with the Biblical text. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;In several places the Bible indicates that God “stretched out” the heavens (Isaiah 45:12 is one). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;By the way, astronomers observe that the heavens are still stretching - called “red shifts.” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Anyway, if we rewind a bit we can arrive at a time when the universe was smaller (before God stretched it if you will).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Evolutionists rewind to a single infinitesimally small point (which they call a “quantum state of being”).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Most people imagine this dot exploding into space, but that’s not what evolutionists teach.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They teach that all matter, energy, and space-time was inside the “quantum state of being” and it (for some unknown reason) rapidly expanded into our cosmos (some 13.7 billion years ago).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;And get this, they teach that it (the dot) was infinite with no center and no edge. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;So, that centerless, edgeless “quantum state of being” rapidly expanded into the centerless, edgeless, infinite cosmos we know and love today.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;This is an essential cog in the evolutionist’s theory. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Stephen Hawking explains, “So long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But if the universe is really self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would have neither beginning nor end, it would simply be.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What place, then, for a creator?” (137-138, &lt;i style=""&gt;A Brief History of Time&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Here’s what I find interesting: evolutionists admit that from all observations and calculations earth seems to be located in an ideal place for star gazing. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;In fact, it appears to be near the center of the universe, but having earth near the center of a universe with at least 100 billion galaxies is statistically impossible (lest it was placed there by a Designer). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, they assume a centerless, edgeless universe. Hawking and Ellis admit, “we are not able to make cosmological models without some admixture of ideology… we are now so democratic that we would not claim our position in space is specially distinguished in any way.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;We shall… call this assumption the &lt;i style=""&gt;Copernican principle&lt;/i&gt;” &lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(&lt;i style=""&gt;The Large Scale Structure of Space-Time&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Ok, if you plug an edgeless, centerless universe into astronomical equations you get an old earth and old starlight coming from a big bang some 13.7 billion years ago.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But please note, the conclusion is affected by the staring assumptions. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;If you change your starting assumption, you change your conclusion.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;The Bible says God “stretched out” the heavens. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;If we rewind to creation week, we can assume the universe was smaller. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;If the universe is bounded (i.e. has an edge and a center) and if earth is near the center of the universe (which the Bible suggests when it tells us the sun, moon, and stars were created for us as “signs to mark seasons, days, and years….” (Gen 1:14), then our conclusions will be far different from the big bang cosmology. &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Here’s how: gravitational time dilation.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I’ll make this as simple as possible and avoid black holes, white holes, event horizons, and E=MC^2. &lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Here’s the short of it: gravity affects time.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The greater the gravitational force the slower time moves relative to time under lesser gravitational force (if you want examples, I’ll give you some).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, if earth was near the center of a smaller universe, then the gravitational force would be greater toward the center than the edges. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;If so, clocks on earth would move slower relative to clocks on the edges of the universe. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Now this is going to stretch your brains, but if the force was great enough (which the equations suggest they were), then millions (and even billions) of years could transpire in the outer reaches of the universe while only days transpired on earth.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Here’s the short of it, there was plenty of time for distant starlight to reach earth and the time referenced in Scripture is given in earth time.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, if you take a bounded universe with an edge and center and posit that earth is near the center (not that earth is stationary and the universe revolves around it) and that the universe has been stretched out and plug all this into the astronomical equations, you end up with a young earth with relative old light.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;In short, the Bible’s account stands.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I skipped a lot of steps to get here. If you need me to fill them in, ask.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;If you want to know more, buy &lt;i style=""&gt;Starlight and Time: Solving the Puzzle of Distant Starlight in a Young Universe&lt;/i&gt; by D. Russell Humphreys.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-6677644352550884576?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/6677644352550884576/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=6677644352550884576' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6677644352550884576'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6677644352550884576'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/02/starlight-starbright-how-old-are-you.html' title='Starlight, Starbright, How old are you?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-9179105672960447994</id><published>2008-02-02T10:22:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-02-02T10:31:04.802-06:00</updated><title type='text'>RVL resonates with Bell</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;A while back I mentioned that something Ray Vander Laan said reminded me of something I had heard out of the emerging church.  &lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;During RVL’s talk he described Matthew’s account of Jesus and Peter walking on the water. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;RVL said that Peter didn’t lose faith in Jesus (because Jesus was right in front of him); he lost faith in himself. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;In other words, Peter didn’t believe he actually could be like his rabbi (which was the highest aspiration of ever disciple).  &lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, when Jesus said, “You of little faith.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Why did you doubt?” He was saying, “Why did you doubt &lt;i style=""&gt;yourself &lt;/i&gt;and your (Spirit empowered) ability to follow me?” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;RVL was sure to include the “Spirit empowered” qualification.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I’ll let somebody else critique RVL’s exegesis here; I want to share where emerging church pastor Rob Bell takes this.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;(&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;Bell&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;, by the way, is enamored with RVL.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;As best I can tell, &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Bell&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; takes RVL’s teachings to places RVL didn’t/doesn’t envision.)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Anyway, here’s a quote from &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Bell&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;’s &lt;i style=""&gt;Velvet Elvis&lt;/i&gt;, “God has an incredibly high view of people.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;God believes that people are capable of amazing things.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I have been told that I need to believe in Jesus.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Which is a good thing.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But what I am learning is that Jesus believes in me.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I have been told that I need to have faith in God.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Which is a good thing.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But what I am learning is that God has faith in me.” (134)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Before I go further, my purpose isn’t to bash &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;Bell&lt;/st1:city&gt; (or RVL); &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Bell&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; has a lot of great stuff and he’s absolutely right about several things. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Here, however, I struggle to take him seriously.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;“God has an incredibly high view of people.” &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Does he read the Bible I read?   &lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;“God has faith in me.”&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Really?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I know one of the characteristics of the emerging church is a hesitancy to define terms with precision (and I’ll admit that endless definitions of terms can be tedious at best). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;EC prefers “messy” theology – by which they mean a more eastern approach of story/question/conversation in contrast to the western’s proposition/answer/definition. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;In many ways it’s a helpful corrective.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Despite the dryness of definitions, however, they’re essential for conversation.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If you don’t know what another means, how can you converse?   &lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;So, how does &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Bell&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; define “believe”? &lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Belief in God is a “good thing”? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Isn’t it a saving thing?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Does God believe in us in the same way we believe in Him?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;How does he define “faith”?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Faith in God is a “good thing”? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Isn’t it by faith alone in Christ that we are saved? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Does God have faith in us in the same way we have faith in Him?  &lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;At some point we have to define terms. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;As much as EC likes things messy, they are going to have to define terms to carry on their conversation. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Otherwise their conversation will become as meaningless as &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;the&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt; Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification between Rome and The Lutheran World Federation.   &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Perhaps someone else has thoughts on this? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Maybe I missed &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Bell&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:city&gt;’s point altogether. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Let me know.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-9179105672960447994?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/9179105672960447994/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=9179105672960447994' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/9179105672960447994'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/9179105672960447994'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/02/rvl-resonates-with-bell.html' title='RVL resonates with Bell'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-3163482588343943919</id><published>2008-01-29T15:52:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-29T15:56:52.049-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Transfiguration in context</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;If you’re like me, the transfiguration of Jesus has always fascinated and perplexed you. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Because this Sunday is Transfiguration Sunday, I’ve dedicated my day to understanding (at least trying to) the transfiguration. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 15pt;"&gt;A Few Prolegomena &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Peter, James, John, &amp;amp; Jesus go up      a mountain&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Jesus is transfigured (Grk –      metamorphoo, from which we get metamorphosis)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="circle"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;The       same Greek word is used in Romans 12:2 and 2 Cor. 3:18 – a pretty       powerful connection, but not the focus of my study&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;  &lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Moses and Elijah appear with Jesus&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="circle"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;Moses       – ultimate representative of the Law&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;Elijah       – ultimate representative of the Prophets&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Voice from heaven&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="circle"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;“This       is my Son, my Chosen One; listen to him!”&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="square"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;This is my Son – from Psalm 2:7 (Writings –        &lt;/span&gt;Khethubim&lt;span style=""&gt; in Hebrew)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;My &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Chosen&lt;/st1:place&gt;        One – from Isaiah 42:1 (Prophets – Naviim In Hebrew)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Listen to him – from Deuteronomy 18:15 (Law        – Torah in Hebrew)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;In       other words, The Father makes it clear that Jesus fulfills the TaNaKh.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The Father quotes all three sections of       the Hebrew Scriptures! &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 15pt;"&gt;The Interesting Stuff&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;There’s a Midrash (commentary on Tanakh) on Psalm 43 that seems to serve as a background for the Transfiguration account.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;Here is the Midrash quote:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;"&gt;Psalm 43:2 states: ‘Why did I walk depressed because of the oppression of my enemy.’ [Has not God saved me in the past and does he not tell me now] – Did I not send you redemption (in &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Egypt&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;) then as it is said: ‘He SENT Moses, his servant, Aaron whom he CHOSE’ (Ps 105:26); and so He sends us another two as their counterparts, as it is said in Psalm 43:3: ‘Send your Light and your Truth they will lead me…’ So God says to them: I will send your salvation again, as it is said, ‘Behold I SEND you Elijah the Prophet’ (Mal 3:22-23). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;So now one is named.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The second one is “Yea my servant, I shall take hold of him, my &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;CHOSEN&lt;/st1:place&gt; one [in whom I shall delight]” (Isa 42:1). &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Thus does the Psalm say: “Send your Light and your Truth they will lead me; they will bring me to your holy mountain and to your tents (Ps 43:3).&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;What does this mean?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"&gt;The rabbis looked at Psalm 43:3 and saw, “Send out your LIGHT and your TRUTH, let them lead me…” and said that when the next generation was oppressed they would need two redeemers similar to Moses and Aaron who redeemed the previous generation.&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"&gt;In the Midrash, they taught that these two redeemers would come in the form of LIGHT and TRURTH.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"&gt;To make a long story short, they thought the LIGHT would be Elijah and the TRUTH would be the Messiah.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Micah 4:5 speaks about Elijah’s coming and Isaiah 42:1 speaks about the Messiah’s coming. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"&gt;According to Psalm 43:3b they (the LIGHT and the TRUTH) would bring them “to your holy hill and to your dwelling” (a plural noun in Hebrew meaning “tabernacles” or “tents”).&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"&gt;So, here on the mountain we have the two redeemers Elijah (LIGHT) (the preparer for the Messiah) and Jesus (TRUTH) (the Messiah) together and Peter wants to do what? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Build tents!&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Peter knew the text! &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Moses seems to have been along to point to this.&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"&gt;Then at the end of Psalm 43 it says, “Hope in God; for I shall again praise him, my salvation and my God” (literally “The salvation of my countenance/face and my God).&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Seems the Gospel writers want us to see in the word salvation, which is “yeshua,” a reference to Jesus as our “salvation” and our God.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;"&gt;I haven’t got this all figured out yet, but I find it very interesting. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Anybody else ever heard of this?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-3163482588343943919?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/3163482588343943919/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=3163482588343943919' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/3163482588343943919'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/3163482588343943919'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/01/transfiguration-in-context.html' title='Transfiguration in context'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-3767987474096972757</id><published>2008-01-18T10:05:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-18T10:07:07.535-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Thomas a Kempis on Self-Esteem</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;“Shall I speak unto my Lord, since I am but dust and ashes?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If I esteem myself to be any thing more, behold, Thou standest against me, and my iniquities bear true witness, and I cannot contradict it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;But if I abase myself, and reduce myself to nothing, and shrink from self-esteem, and grind myself to (what I am) dust, Thy grace will be favorable to me, and Thy light near unto my heart; and all self-esteem, how little soever, shall be swallowed up in the valley of my nothingness, and perish for ever.” &lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;(Thomas a Kempis &lt;i style=""&gt;Of The Imitation of Christ&lt;/i&gt;, Book III, Chp. 8.1)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-3767987474096972757?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/3767987474096972757/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=3767987474096972757' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/3767987474096972757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/3767987474096972757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/01/thomas-kempis-on-self-esteem.html' title='Thomas a Kempis on Self-Esteem'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-5507302116189273751</id><published>2008-01-18T08:30:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-18T08:43:20.221-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Honorable Discharge</title><content type='html'>In my office are two brittle, broken Bibles.  Their bindings are busted and their pages falling out.  The congregation purchased new Bibles for the pews and donated the older ones; these two weren't fit to be donated.  So, how does one honorably discharge a Bible?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-5507302116189273751?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/5507302116189273751/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=5507302116189273751' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/5507302116189273751'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/5507302116189273751'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/01/honorable-discharge.html' title='Honorable Discharge'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-2213216168477610696</id><published>2008-01-16T20:25:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-17T12:58:32.406-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Is truth dead (in your life)?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Send forth your light and your truth, let them guide me; let them bring me to your holy mountain, to the place where you dwell. (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;Psalm 43:3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;Oh if God's truth would guide us and only His truth!  to the place where God dwells no less!  What joy that would bring!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;How often we are guided, however, by our bruised feelings, our prejudices, our ignorance, our pride, and our selfish desires.   It's no wonder we hurt so much. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;I fear we live as if Malcom Muggeridge's words were true, &lt;/o:p&gt;"It is truth that has died, not God." &lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;(Malcom Muggeridge, &lt;i style=""&gt;Chronicles of Wasted Time: An Autobiography&lt;/i&gt;, “The Green Stick,” 20)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-2213216168477610696?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/2213216168477610696/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=2213216168477610696' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/2213216168477610696'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/2213216168477610696'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/01/is-truth-dead-in-your-life.html' title='Is truth dead (in your life)?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-7794038160877482068</id><published>2008-01-15T08:15:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-15T08:30:47.261-06:00</updated><title type='text'>A Lectionary Lacuna?</title><content type='html'>I was reading from Ezekiel 16 last night - whoa was God not happy with Israel!  It's no wonder He sent them into exile!  Don't believe me?  Read it.  (Read it in ESV - NIV is too soft.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I was reading it, I asked my wife, "Hmm, I wonder why this text isn't included in the lectionary?" A lacuna perhaps?  Or perhaps it was too poignant?  You ever heard it read in worship?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-7794038160877482068?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/7794038160877482068/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=7794038160877482068' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7794038160877482068'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7794038160877482068'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/01/lectionary-lacuna.html' title='A Lectionary Lacuna?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-1158398703434471144</id><published>2008-01-13T22:02:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-13T22:30:18.879-06:00</updated><title type='text'>The Fire Within Doesn't Start There</title><content type='html'>Yesterday I had the opportunity to hear Ray Vander Laan speak (known for &lt;em&gt;"&lt;/em&gt;That the World May Know" series).  What a fantastic experience!  If you've seen Ray's videos, he's very informative, but lacks intesity.  That Ray is no more; he's on fire.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He spoke about praying for the fire within for years without seeing results.  At some point, however, someone (might have been a Rabbi) told him that the fire didn't start within; it started outside him - in,with, and under (my Lutheran faith coming through) the Word of God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Think Jeremiah 23:29 - God's Word is a fire. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do you want fire?  Read the book!  Read it, learn it, know it, live it, devour it.  The fire within doesn't start within - it's set ablaze by the Word! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And that was just five minutes of the seminar! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He also talked about The Western Mind (abstract, propositional, definition, systematic, etc.) and The Eastern Mind (concrete, story, word pictures, saying, question).  Both are needed - not one at the expense of the other.  (That got me thinking about another area of recent study - the emerging church- more to come another time.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A couple points of interest:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1.  Why didn't Jesus just stand up an announce, "Hey I'm the Messiah and here are 52 proof texts"?  &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because nobody would have listened - at least not anyone from the Eastern mindset.  So, what did Jesus do?  He gave living, visual evidence He was the Messiah.  Want specifics?  Ask.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2.  What did it mean to be a disciple?  &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;EVERYTHING!  Disciples (called Talmadim) followed their Rabbi everywhere.  They sought to walk in the way of God by walking like their Rabbi walked - who walked in the way of God.  VanderLaan gave the image of walking so closely to your Rabbi that you would get dusty from the dust he kicked up.  In short, Jesus didn't call admirers.  He didn't call people to give assent to an idea.  He called people to follow Him!  To live like/with Him.  Are you dusty?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other topics addressed: significance of Galilee regions, schools of Judaism (Beth Sefer, Beth Midrash, Beth Talmud), becoming talmudim, age of disciples when called, binding and loosing, tzitzit, kanaf, and tallit, the use of Allusion ("Remez"), the Kingdom of Heaven, Exodus event's connection to Passover celebration, the institution of Lord's Supper, the non-drinking of the cup of protection, the Night of Watching in Gethsemane, and the drinking of the Elijah cup. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Want to talk about one?  Post.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-1158398703434471144?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/1158398703434471144/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=1158398703434471144' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/1158398703434471144'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/1158398703434471144'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/01/fire-within-doesnt-start-there.html' title='The Fire Within Doesn&apos;t Start There'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-4309888195696951966</id><published>2008-01-05T20:11:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-06T06:02:59.205-06:00</updated><title type='text'>A Perturbing and Perpetual Pastoral Problem</title><content type='html'>If people were like cars, my job would be a lot easier.  I could fix what was broken, tighten what was loose, or replace what was busted.  But they're not; they're exceedingly complicated.  If you've been alive more than 30 seconds, you know what I mean; I don't need to give any examples.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having said that, I need your thoughts.  How do you help someone who has made a bed that's incredibly uncomfortable to sleep in and complains about it?  I'm talking about the person who knowingly marries someone with serious issues and is shocked to discover life isn't daises and picket fences, had a child with someone to whom they're not married and complains that life is difficult, or some such scenario.  What do you do?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Telling them they got their comeuppance is tempting, but not wise.  Artfully applying law and gospel is not the answer I'm looking for even if it is the right answer (that's too simple).  I know how to apply law and gospel, but at some point I don't know what else to do.  Sin breaks things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The unfortunate and uncomfortable truth is that people don't deal with their original sin - the sinful marriage, the sinful fornication, the sinful divorce, etc.  Perhaps the answer I'm looking for is repentance (a practice I'm increasingly learning to appreciate and see the desperate need for in my own life), but how does a person repent from a sinful marriage, being an illegitimate parent, divorcing when they shouldn't have, etc.?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do I need to tell people, "You need to repent for marrying your spouse?"  What does that look like?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can see telling someone to repent for parenting a child outside of marriage, but what does that look like?  The same with divorce, but what does that look like?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess what I'm asking is, how do I help people deal with the root of their sin and not just the consequences?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does anyone else struggle with this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Acts 3:19 comes to mind; any other suggestions?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-4309888195696951966?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/4309888195696951966/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=4309888195696951966' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4309888195696951966'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4309888195696951966'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/01/perturbing-pastoral-problem.html' title='A Perturbing and Perpetual Pastoral Problem'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-9056877807381291380</id><published>2008-01-04T11:23:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-04T11:33:21.758-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Caucus Complete</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.acc-tv.com/images/globalnews/gp_vote2008_0607.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 198px; height: 150px;" src="http://www.acc-tv.com/images/globalnews/gp_vote2008_0607.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I attended my first caucus last night.  It was a fascinating experience as over 600 people from rural Iowa crammed into a tiny school gym to make their voice known.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I really got the sense that a lot is at stake in the next election.  I know a lot is at stake in every election, but the urgency seemed to be ratcheted up a notch or two last night.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Did any other of you Iowans attend your caucus?  What are your thoughts?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How about you non-Iowans, what are you impressions/questions of/about the caucus?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-9056877807381291380?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/9056877807381291380/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=9056877807381291380' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/9056877807381291380'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/9056877807381291380'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/01/caucus-complete.html' title='Caucus Complete'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-8292256112237205376</id><published>2008-01-02T15:57:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-02T16:02:14.724-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Truth Matters</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoBodyText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;Truth is very beautiful; more so, as I consider, than justice – today’s pursuit, which easily puts on a false face.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In the nearly seven decades I have lived through, the world has overflowed with bloodshed and explosions whose dust has never had time to settle before others have erupted; all in purportedly just causes.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The quest for justice continues, and the weapons and the hatred pile up; but truth was an early casualty. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoBodyText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:78%;"&gt;(Malcom Muggeridge, &lt;i style=""&gt;Chronicles of Wasted Time: An Autobiography&lt;/i&gt;, “The Green Stick,” 19)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoBodyText"&gt;Do you agree?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-8292256112237205376?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/8292256112237205376/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=8292256112237205376' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/8292256112237205376'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/8292256112237205376'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2008/01/truth-matters.html' title='Truth Matters'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-7126582486198696209</id><published>2007-12-29T11:42:00.001-06:00</published><updated>2007-12-29T11:47:10.334-06:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/67/71/23207167.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 149px; height: 190px;" src="http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/67/71/23207167.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://consortiumlibrary.org/site/images/content_specific/books2.jpg"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoBodyText"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-size:12;color:black;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;“The person who desires to grow spiritually and intellectually will be constantly at his books.” Oswald Sanders&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  Your thoughts?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-7126582486198696209?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/7126582486198696209/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=7126582486198696209' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7126582486198696209'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/7126582486198696209'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2007/12/person-who-desires-to-grow-spiritually.html' title=''/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-6759685762164557891</id><published>2007-12-27T14:33:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2008-01-02T15:56:11.474-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Christmas One: Isaiah jives with Matthew</title><content type='html'>&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Could you ask for a better set of readings for the end of the year? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Isaiah 63:7-14 and Matthew 2:13-23?&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;At first blush, they appear to have nothing in common. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;After all Matthew references Hosea, Jeremiah, and “the (unnamed) prophets.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Once you spend a little time with Isaiah and Matthew, however, you realize they jive like peanut butter and jelly.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Isaiah 63&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;V. 7 I will tell of the kindnesses of the Lord...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Tell (zakar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Bwhebb;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;) = an intimate recalling/remembering, almost a reliving, a very real experience&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;When God remembers (zakar&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Bwhebb;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;), He gets involved – think Exodus 6:5 where God “remembers” His covenant w/ &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; and comes down to rescue them. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;This is almost certainly what Isaiah has in mind when he recalls/tells of the kindnesses of the Lord.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Kindnesses (chesed) = steadfast love, unfailing love, God’s love in action&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Isaiah probably remembers Exodus 33:14 where God passes by Moses proclaiming, “The Lord, The Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love (chesed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Bwhebb;"&gt;,,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;) and faithfulness…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Certainly is recalling the entire exodus experience and God’s repeated expressions of kindnesses (chesed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Bwhebb;"&gt;,,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;V. 8 He [God] said, “Surely they are my people…” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;My people (ami&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Bwhebb;"&gt;;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;) = pure Gospel &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;In Isaiah 6:9 they were “this people.” = law &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;In Hosea 1:9 they were (Lo Ami) “not my people.” = law&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;V. 9 In all their distress he too was distressed…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;God was moved by His people’s distress. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think: Exodus 3:7-8a – God sees &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;’s misery and comes down to rescue them. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;And the angel/messenger of his presence saved them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Literally “the messenger of His face (paniym) saved them.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think: Exodus 33:14 – God tells Moses My Presence (literally My Face) will go with you&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think: 2 Corinthians 4:6 – Glory of God revealed in the face of Jesus. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;In his love and mercy he redeemed them; he carried them…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;God’s love and mercy moved Him to redeem/restore/rescue &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think: Exodus 6:6 – God makes the promise to do exactly this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Intimate carrying of the Lord&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think Isaiah 40:11 – God carries His lambs close to his heart.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;V. 10 Yet they rebelled…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Despite God’s repeated demonstrations of unfailing and steadfast love (chesed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Bwhebb;"&gt;,,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;) and His intimate expressions of covenantal love, they rebelled!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think Exodus 15:23 – the bitter, undrinkable water of Marah – it’s the same word used for “rebellion” here. Their rebellion was bitter to God!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;And grieved his Holy Spirit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;God was grieved (atsab&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Bwhebb;"&gt;'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;)!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think Genesis 6:6 – God’s heart was full of pain (atsab&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Bwhebb;"&gt;'&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;) over the corruption of mankind.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;God’s not an unmoved mover; He’s the most moved mover.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;So he turned on them and became their enemy and he himself fought against them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;God’s wrath was provoked. How long does it last?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think Isaiah 54:8 – only a moment, His unfailing and steadfast love&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;(chesed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Bwhebb;"&gt;,,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;), however, lasts forever. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;V. 11 Then his people recalled they days of old…&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;“Then” i.e. after experiencing God’s wrath, they recalled/remembered (zakar) God’s saving activities in the “good old days.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;“Then” &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; wanted to relive God’s unfailing and steadfast love (chesed) they experienced in the Exodus. &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; wanted God to do it again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style=""&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;Enter Matthew 2:13:23 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-indent: -0.5in;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;v. 15 And so was fulfilled what the Lord had said through the prophet: "Out of &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;Egypt&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; I called my son.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Here’s the (very) short of it: God does it again!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;God carries &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; out of &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Egypt&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;God brings His Son out of &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Egypt&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Jesus is &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; condensed to one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;He is God’s obedient Israel/Son&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;He does right what OT Israel did wrong&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;How’s that affect us?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think Galatians 3:26-29 – If baptized, sons of God, seed/offspring of Abraham, heirs according to the promise. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Baptized believers in Christ are incorporated into &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; – we are &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;&lt;/st1:country-region&gt; about whom God says, “They are my people (ami).” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;What does Paul tell us not to do?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think Ephesians 4:30 – don’t grieve the Holy Spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Instead, remember God’s unfailing love.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.75in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;·&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;How do we tell/remember/relive God’s unfailing and steadfast love (chesed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Bwhebb;"&gt;,,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;)?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Think “Do this in remembrance of me.” - The Sacrament of the Altar! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1.25in; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;&amp;quot;;"&gt;o &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;And what, by the way, was Jesus doing on the night He instituted the Sacrament? Remembering/reliving the exodus event in the Passover.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]--&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;u1:p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;Any body else find this fascinating? I can't wait to preach it!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/u1:p&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-6759685762164557891?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/6759685762164557891/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=6759685762164557891' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6759685762164557891'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6759685762164557891'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2007/12/christmas-one-isaiah-jives-with-matthew.html' title='Christmas One: Isaiah jives with Matthew'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-2284581624593859605</id><published>2007-12-25T22:47:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-12-26T08:25:46.114-06:00</updated><title type='text'>The Created Cosmos - No Monkey Business</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://madsenblog.dk/billeder/chimp_at_typewriter.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 251px; height: 188px;" src="http://madsenblog.dk/billeder/chimp_at_typewriter.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In all likelihood you've all heard/read about evolutionists supporting the theory of evolution by comparing it to monkeys typing sonnets on a typewriter: random, purposeless, unguided chance (along with natural selection and mutations) + large quantities of time = evolution.&lt;br /&gt;Well, given enough time, could monkeys compose sonnets?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems the British National Council of Arts actually tried it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's what they did:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A computer was placed in a cage with six monkeys for one month.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;After one month of use (including as a bathroom), the monkeys produced 50 typed pages – but not a single word.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;“&lt;i style=""&gt;A &lt;/i&gt;is a word only if there is a space on either side of it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;If we take it that the keyboard has thirty characters (the twenty-six letters and other symbols), the likelihood of getting a one-letter word is 30 times 30 times 30, which is 27,000.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The likelihood of getting a one-letter word is one change out of 27,000.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gerry Schroeder (author of The Science of God) then asked,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;‘What’s the chance of getting a Shakespearean sonnet?’…&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;“All sonnets are the same length.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;They’re by definition fourteen lines long.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I picked the one I knew the opening line for, ‘Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?’&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;I counted the number of letters; there are 488 letters in the sonnet.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What’s the likelihood of hammering away and getting 488 letters in the exact sequence in ‘Shall I Compare Thee to a Summer’s Day?’&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;What you end up with is 26 multiplied by itself 488 times – or 26 to the 488&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; power.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Or, in other words, in base 10, 10 to the 690&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"[Now] the number of particles in the universe – not grains of sand, I’m talking about protons, electrons, and neutrons – is 10 to the 80&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Ten to the 80&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; is 1 with 80 zeros after it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Then to the 690&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; is 1 with 690 zeros after it.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;There are not enough particles in the universe to write down the trials; you’d be off by a factor of 10 to the 690&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;"  &gt;“If you took the entire universe and converted it to computer chips –forget the monkeys- each one weighing a millionth of a gram and had each computer chip able to spin out 488 trials at, say, a million times a second; if you turn the entire universe into these microcomputer chips and these chips were spinning a million times a second [producing] random letters, the number of trials you would get since the beginning of time would be 10 to the 90&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; trials.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;It would be off again by a factor or 10 to the 600&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;You will never get a sonnet by chance.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;The universe would have to be 10 to the 600&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt; times larger.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;Yet the world just thinks monkeys can do it every time.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Found in: "There Is A God" by Antony Flew&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what Flew and Schroeder fail to mention is that this is only one side of the coin.  Composing the sonnet it one thing (one statistically impossible thing!).  The other necessary component is the ability to recognize it.  In other words, an entire language needs to be extant and the knowledge to understand it - add that to the monkey business and you'll feel like scratching your head!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The short of it is: life did not / can not evolve by chance  (especially if you consider that the DNA in each cell contains three and a half billion nucleotide bases, is about two meters in length and has more information than three complete sets of the Encyclopedia Britannica).  Life needs something/someone to order it and something/someone to create the ability to recognize the order.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kind of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;"  &gt;only &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;leaves one option doesn't it?  And it ain't the monkeys.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-2284581624593859605?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/2284581624593859605/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=2284581624593859605' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/2284581624593859605'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/2284581624593859605'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2007/12/created-cosmos-no-monkey-business.html' title='The Created Cosmos - No Monkey Business'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-2841821989865347267</id><published>2007-12-20T22:05:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-12-20T22:06:56.121-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Advent 4 - And the young maiden will be with child...???</title><content type='html'>Anybody else excited about the texts (Isaiah 7:1-17 and Matthew 1:18-25) for this Sunday (Advent 4)?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I mean what's not to like?  The Syro-Ephraimite Wars, Pekah and Rezin vs. Ahaz and Tiglath-Pileser III (really his name alone makes it worth it) and throw in a little prophecy action from Isaiah and you have a made for TV movie. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And of course everybody's favorite sign from Isaiah 7:14 "The Lord will give you a sign: the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son and will be called Immanuel..."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what really excites me is the opportunity to explain signs and prophecies.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By now everyone has heard that the Hebrew word for virgin "almah" can mean "young maiden."  I love it when "enlightened" "scholars" present this to people in question form: "Hey, did you know that "almah" is usually translated "young maiden?" and then don't bother to explain any more.  They just leave people wondering if Mary was really a virgin and if the virgin birth is really essential to Biblical theology and Christian faith.  It's great to help people think through their faith with inductive questions, but let's not forget the devil is familiar with this method too: "Did God really say?"  Asking questions is one thing.  Sometimes people need answers. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, "almah" can be translated "young maiden."  Big deal.  The fact of the matter is the sign of which Isaiah spoke in 7:14 was, in all likelihood, given in the next chapter.  Just read 8:3-10.  Isaiah talks about "Immanuel."  Of course, Isaiah named the boy, which he conceived w/ a prophetess, Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz (which we initially considered naming our first born :) ) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, the sign was given to Ahaz/Judah only 9 months after it was promised (not 700 years later when Jesus was born).  The woman who bore the child was most likely a virgin until she conceived. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The sign, which was the child, pointed to the promise, which was God's promise to save His people.  So, Immanuel (which means "God with us") was the sign given to verify God's promise which was to deliver His people quickly (and BTW, Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz means "quick to the plunder, swift to the spoils" (which would have fit our first child perfectly)  ).  Of course, Ahaz didn't do Judah any favors by seeking out Assyria's help instead of the Lord's - try like the whole land be ransacked, save Jerusalem, and that was only because the Lord miraculously intervened and killed 185,000 Assyrians over night with the wave of His hand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, so what about Jesus?  Well, here's what I love about signs and prophecies: Isaiah's prophecy was initially fulfilled in Ahaz's time and 700 years later, Jesus fully fulfilled it (some theological bigwigs call this "telescoping." Think a telescope being collapsed and expanded - there's more to prophecy than the little condensed telescope; you have to stretch it out).  So, Jesus was Immanuel, the sign that "God (is) with us."  And what did the sign verify?  In other words, the sign pointed to something just like Isaiah's Immanuel pointed to God's promise to deliver His people quickly.  Well, read Matthew 1:18-25.  The angel tells Joseph the child will be named Jesus because He will save people from their sins.  Jesus means "the Lord is salvation."  The sign (Immanuel) verified the promise (Jesus) to save people from their sins. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And what about poor Mary?  Was she a virgin?  Just read the Greek.  "Parthenos" unequivocally means "virgin."  Mary was a virgin.  As to why that's important, well, that's for another time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anybody else excited yet? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;**Disclaimer: this was all off the top of my head, so please forgive and correct any mistakes.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-2841821989865347267?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/2841821989865347267/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=2841821989865347267' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/2841821989865347267'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/2841821989865347267'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2007/12/advent-4-and-young-maiden-will-be-with.html' title='Advent 4 - And the young maiden will be with child...???'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-8920704919330487071</id><published>2007-12-20T14:33:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-12-20T15:07:04.448-06:00</updated><title type='text'>My New Ancient Book</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://pastors.crossmap.com/images_pastors/341.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 150px; height: 221px;" src="http://pastors.crossmap.com/images_pastors/341.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I just got this (Archaeological Study Bible) in the mail yesterday and have already used it for sermon prep. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;It’s chock-full of articles on the history/archeology/culture etc. of Biblical times.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;For example, this Sunday’s OT reading is from Isaiah 7.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So I turned to Isaiah 7 and there’s an entire page on the Syro-Ephraimite War with references to Pekah, Rezin, and Tiglath-Pileser III.&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;I love it!  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;It also has 500 full color photographs with descriptions interspersed through out.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;    &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And at the beginning of each book it has helpful cultural facts and highlights along with incredibly helpful time lines.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;For example, the intro to Isaiah gives the time range of Isaiah’s ministry along with the split of the kingdom, the ministries of Elijah and Elisha, Amos, Hosea, and &lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;Micah&lt;/st1:city&gt;, &lt;st1:country-region st="on"&gt;Israel&lt;/st1:country-region&gt;’s exile, and the fall of &lt;st1:place st="on"&gt;&lt;st1:city st="on"&gt;Jerusalem&lt;/st1:city&gt;&lt;/st1:place&gt;.  Very helpful!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;And it comes with a CD that has all 500 photographs, charts, tables, articles, diagrams, etc.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;It has already made a welcome addition to my Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible, my two IVP Bible Background Commentaries, and my A History of Israel by John Bright.&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;I know, it’s the NIV translation, but I have the ESV also on my desk (and the Greek and Hebrew), so the NIV doesn’t bother me. &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Does anybody else have this book or some such similar thing they’d be willing to share info on? &lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-8920704919330487071?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/8920704919330487071/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=8920704919330487071' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/8920704919330487071'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/8920704919330487071'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2007/12/my-new-ancient-book.html' title='My New Ancient Book'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-4073022225488772322</id><published>2007-12-18T14:59:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-12-18T15:00:56.804-06:00</updated><title type='text'>A Prayer Collection</title><content type='html'>If you’re like most people, you collect something (whether it be toys, books, photographs, or even memories).  The Church also collects something: prayers.  In fact, for the last 1500 years (and probably earlier), the church has collected prayers.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m not sure about other traditions, but the Lutheran tradition prays “the collect of the day” every Sunday.  With elegance and brevity the Collect collects the thoughts of the entire congregation into one prayer even as it summarizes the Scripture readings for the day.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The five parts of the collect are: 1) invocation 2) basis for petition 3) petition 4) purpose or benefit desired 5) the doxology.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here’s the collect for Christmas Dawn:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most merciful God,&lt;br /&gt;You gave Your eternal Word to become incarnate of the pure Virgin.&lt;br /&gt;Grant Your people grace to put away fleshly lusts, &lt;br /&gt;that they may be ready for Your visitation;&lt;br /&gt;through Jesus Christ, our Lord, who lives an reigns with You and the Holy Spirit,&lt;br /&gt;one God, now and forever. Amen.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I find it meaningful to pray the collected prayers of fellow believers and it helps me accomplish what Walter Wangerin Jr. asks in his book Whole Prayer, “Does God as God receive as much attention and detail as your grant yourself in your prayer?”  It’s too easy to let my personal prayers and our corporate prayers slip into mere requests for me/us and away from praise and glory to God.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-4073022225488772322?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/4073022225488772322/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=4073022225488772322' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4073022225488772322'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4073022225488772322'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2007/12/prayer-collection.html' title='A Prayer Collection'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-2862197478977214623</id><published>2007-12-16T21:43:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-12-16T22:00:41.379-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Avowed Atheist Apostatizes – Why?</title><content type='html'>I just finished reading Anthony Flew’s latest book: There Is A God: How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind.  It truly is a must read for any serious Christian apologist.  (Never heard of Flew?  The subtitle ought to give you a hint.  If you’re still not sure, Google him.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What changed his mind?  Three areas of scientific inquiry were especially important.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. How did the laws of nature come to be?&lt;br /&gt;2. How did life as a phenomenon originate from non-life?&lt;br /&gt;3. How did the universe, by which we mean all that is physical, come into  &lt;br /&gt;        existence?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, Christian apologists, do you have answers?  (and “God did it” is too easy; that short circuits the process.)  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you don’t, then you really should read this book.  Our culture is becoming increasingly attuned to these issues.  Are you?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Along the way you can expect Flew to interact with Einstein, Hawking, Dawkins, and Plantinga, Paul Davies, and N.T. Wright, along with numerous others.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of my personal favorite sections is where Flew discusses the classic “monkey theorem.”  Really quite fascinating.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Flew hasn’t yet confessed Christ, but by the looks of this, he’s close: “no other religion enjoys anything like the combination of a charismatic figure like Jesus and a first-class intellectual like St. Paul.  If you’re wanting omnipotence to set up a religion, it seems to me that this is the one to beat!”&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-2862197478977214623?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/2862197478977214623/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=2862197478977214623' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/2862197478977214623'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/2862197478977214623'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2007/12/avowed-atheist-apostatizes-why.html' title='Avowed Atheist Apostatizes – Why?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-4256074644383658745</id><published>2007-12-11T15:35:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-12-11T15:37:48.594-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Advent 3 – Matthew 11:2-15</title><content type='html'>The Gospel reading for the third Sunday in Advent is Matthew 11:2-15.  Verses 2-10 are understandable, 11-15, however, are consternating me.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;11:11  &lt;br /&gt;After talking about John’s role as preparing messenger Jesus says, “Truly, I say to you, among those born of women there has arisen no one greater than John the Baptist.  Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who is “the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven”?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One commentary I read said this, “he (Jesus) had no poor thought about John, but rather great thoughts about the kingdom.  Do we understand that this is the climatic line?  That blank page between the N.T. and the O.T. is a mountain ridge that divides time.  It is a great act of God, a new creation.  People who live on one side, even though they are as noble as John, even though they foretell the new age as did John, are not as ‘great’ in favor and understanding as the lowliest who, trusting Christ, have entered the new land.” &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is this right?  Or is Jesus referring to something completely different?  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight:bold;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;11:12&lt;br /&gt;Then Jesus says, “From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven has suffered violence, and the violent take it by force.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is Jesus talking about?  Is this a veiled reference to John’s imprisonment and suffering for the sake of the kingdom?  Or is it something completely different?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-4256074644383658745?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/4256074644383658745/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=4256074644383658745' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4256074644383658745'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/4256074644383658745'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2007/12/advent-3-matthew-112-15.html' title='Advent 3 – Matthew 11:2-15'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-6060685268721886388</id><published>2007-12-08T09:44:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-12-09T08:28:16.553-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Doctrine of Scripture - the Reformed Perspective</title><content type='html'>Here's something that has perplexed me:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the confessions of the Reformed Church is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Westminster Confession&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;of Faith&lt;/span&gt;. The first article is "Of Holy Scripture." Among other things it lists the 66 books of the canon in an effort clearly to define the canon against Roman Catholicism's inclusion of the Apocrypha. From my reading, this essentially does away with F.F. Bruce's "canon within a canon" (homolegomena and antilegomena). In other words, historically the Church distinguished between books that were accepted by all and books that were "spoken against" (like James, 2 Peter, Hebrews, Revelation, etc.) They established their doctrines on the books that were accepted by all and not the books that were spoken against. They used the ones spoken against for support. The Reformed confession seems to equate them all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does anyone have any thoughts on this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second, the confession also essentially says that God ONLY speaks through Scripture. At least that's how it looks to me. It lists all the ways God used to speak before He spoke in Scripture and then says, "those former ways of God's revealing his will unto his people being now ceased."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, does God speak outside the Bible and, if so, what does it say about &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Westminster Confession&lt;/span&gt;?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-6060685268721886388?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/6060685268721886388/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=6060685268721886388' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6060685268721886388'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6060685268721886388'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2007/12/doctrine-of-scripture-reformed.html' title='Doctrine of Scripture - the Reformed Perspective'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3412795738614902752.post-6224217751587317864</id><published>2007-12-08T09:19:00.000-06:00</published><updated>2007-12-08T09:25:08.411-06:00</updated><title type='text'>Another Crumby Blog?</title><content type='html'>Like most people, I've read blogs and occasionally contributed, but they never seem to be talking about what I'm thinking about.  So, here's my theological crumby blog.  (By the way, theology is my passion, so I tend to think about it a lot.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And really, the crumbs on the floor are more interesting than the food on the table.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3412795738614902752-6224217751587317864?l=theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/feeds/6224217751587317864/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3412795738614902752&amp;postID=6224217751587317864' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6224217751587317864'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3412795738614902752/posts/default/6224217751587317864'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://theologicalcrumbs.blogspot.com/2007/12/another-crumby-blog.html' title='Another Crumby Blog?'/><author><name>Conner7</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00068989503036866142</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry></feed>
